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Iran: Careful What You Wish For

A few readers raised the very reasonable complaint that none of us has blogged about the events in Iran. You're right. A few feeble excuses: Andrew was in Saudi, Scott back in the U.S. and I was traveling through Lebanon and Syria.  This may come as something of a shock to a few of the commentators, who actually think that I just rip stories out of the Israeli newspapers and re-cycle them as my own, but I actually find it hard, not to mention pointless, to write about things and places of which I have no immediate, first-hand knowledge. Iran is one of them. The last time I was there was in 2005, when I hiked up to the castle of the Assassins on a windy crag outside Teheran.

So I don't want to add to the hysterical and often wildly inaccurate punditry about Iran. It was infuriating watching how CNN  flailed to stretch a meaningless scrap of Youtube video of a street demo  into  something portentious.

What I can tell you about, though, is how it all went down in Syria, a close ally of the ayatollahs. If you were following the local TV and newspapers in Syria, you'd think there was no uprising in Iran and that Ahmedinejad was more popular in Iran than Elvis in Memphis, with perhaps a slightly less flamboyant taste in windbreakers.

That's no surprise, really. In the Middle East, there are a few, more than a few, autocrats who  must be alarmed about the groundswell of reform surging through Iran. These leaders sitting on their ornate but uncomfortable thrones must be wondering what's going on beyond their palace walls, in the bazaars and in the universities inside their own little kingdoms and republics. I'm sure the secret police reassure them that they are much loved by their subjects, and then, as proof,  they run out and erect even more giant portraits or statues of their heroic leader. But if these despots have any sense at all, they have to be worried about the reformist movement in Iran. The difference is, in these other Middle Eastern countries, any democratic change would probably bring in the Islamists, as happened in the Palestinian territories.

Going back to when I was in Teheran…  It was after witnessing some annoying piece of behavior by an Iranian Pasdaran –-scolding a schoolgirl for letting a lock of her hair slip from her hijab-- that I turned to my Iranian friend. “Could there ever be another uprising here?” My friend had left Britain at 16 to return to Iran after the fall of the Shah. Those were euphoric, revolutionary days. But they didn't last long. The revolution turned on itself, as they often do, and my friend found himself in prison. When the Iran-Iraq war broke out, the ayatollahs emptied the prisons and sent the undesirables to the front-line as cannon fodder. By luck, my friend survived, but it gave him a lasting wariness towards violent regime change. Any Iranian who survived those tormented times must be aware of the consequences: uprisings and popular movements have a nasty habit of spinning out of control and are inevitably hijacked by extremists. Be careful what you wish for in Iran.

By Tim McGirk/Jerusalem

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    Hysterical inaccurate coverage versus historical but possibly irrelevant observations. Yes, the latter is better. So thanks, McGirk. I also turned to Time's Joe Klein for on- the -spot background:

    " the breach is between the generation that made the revolution of 1979 — leaders like Mir-Hossein Mousavi, the former Presidents Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani and Mohammed Khatami, among others — and the generation that fought the Iran-Iraq war, led by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his cohort among the battle-hardened leadership of the Revolutionary Guards Corps. The war led to a significant militarization of Iranian society, and the Supreme Leader, a member of the 1970s generation, has drifted away from his contemporaries toward the military. Among the rumors and major questions emerging from the election was whether the rigging was a quiet coup, staged by the Ahmadinejad generation against its revolutionary elders. "It is an open question whether the Supreme Leader is really in charge or is just a front for the military, led by Ahmadinejad," an Iranian analyst speculated. But the point is moot: Khamenei, who had attempted to stand above the Iranian factions, is now yoked to Ahmadinejad."

    Also see files by the veteran reporter Robert Fisk, much reviled by wingnut Repugs, who has some compelling insights. http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-irans-day-of-destiny-1706010.html

    This kind of reporting may be why the UK, promoted to Great Satan, and the US the mini-me! More likely the BBC persian service

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    Or perhaps the leaders of Arab nations are not so fearful after all.
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    This in today's Washington Post:
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    Arab Activists Watch Iran And Wonder: 'Why Not Us?'
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    By Sudarsan Raghavan
    Washington Post Foreign Service
    Friday, June 26, 2009
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    CAIRO, June 25 -- Mohamed Sharkawy bears the scars of his devotion to Egypt's democracy movement. He has endured beatings in a Cairo police station, he said, and last year spent more than two weeks in an insect-ridden jail for organizing a protest.
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    But watching tens of thousands of Iranians take to the streets of Tehran this month, the 27-year-old pro-democracy activist has grown disillusioned. In 10 days, he said, the Iranians have achieved far more than his movement has ever accomplished in Egypt.
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    "We sacrificed a lot, but we have gotten nowhere," Sharkawy said.
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    Across the Arab world, Iran's massive opposition protests have triggered a wave of soul-searching and conflicting emotions. Many question why their own reform movements are unable to rally people to rise up against unpopular authoritarian regimes. In Egypt, the cradle of what was once the Arab world's most ambitious push for democracy, Iran's protests have served as a reminder of how much the notion has unraveled under President Hosni Mubarak, who has ruled the country for 30 years.
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    "I am extremely jealous," said Nayra El Sheikh, 28, a blogger and Sharkawy's wife. "I can't help but think: Why not us? What do they have that we don't have? Do they have more guts?"
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    Here's the link for the full article:
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/25/AR2009062504415_pf.html
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    Tim McGirk: I appreciate that you responded even though there were some, and I mean some, commentators who would not give you the benefit of the doubt considering the limited coverage that CNN and Time is posting on the internet. The very fact that there is differing opinion and access to information in the Middle East, not to mention that the bloggers for Time/CNN have other duties than churning out a blog every hour about everything seems to not be something some commentators understand. Thank you for taking the time and addressing the issue to the best of you knowledge and with what access you do have to information concerning the situation. Conjecture and speculation gets people no where.

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    Tim,
    Thank you for replying. It shows that you respect your readers' collective wishes and, of course, we are dedicated fans as you can see. Even Jacob, who is like that grumpy critic from the Muppet Show.
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    Just so you know, I would have been happy to provide insightful guest commentary for your blog. This is something that other blogs frequently do nowadays: feature guest writers. Of course, the submissions would go through you and I would ask for zero compensation to get published on your blog. You should really utilize us! Some of us are extremely knowledgeable about Iran, the 2nd most populous country in the Middle East, and would be happy to provide you with information and commentary of a scholarly level.
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    As for the Islamists, in Iran we now have Ayatollahs, lower clerics, women in full chador, and men who voted for Ahmadinejad all joining in the protests. They see their own being mercilessly killed by a government that is alleged to have worked outside of the system they believed in to consolidate power and end the republican form of government. Have you seen the video of an 80-90 year old woman in a full chador, grasping rocks, and crying to a hulky basiji with baton raised and her wrist clenched in hand, "YOU KILLED NEDA! HOW MANY OTHER NEDAs WILL YOU KILL? WILL YOU KILL ME? I AM NEDA!"?
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    This is a movement that will reverberate all around the Middle East. Feel free to contact me and I will be happy to discuss it with you at length. My e-mail is attached to this account.

  • 5

    [...] no surprise, really,” as Tim McGirk writes in his Time blog.”These leaders sitting on their ornate but uncomfortable thrones must be wondering [...]

  • 6

    [...] Iran: Careful What You Wish For Posted on June 27, 2009 by theolounge A few readers raised the very reasonable complaint that none of us has blogged about the events in Iran. You’re right. A few feeble excuses: Andrew was in Saudi, Scott back in the U.S. and I was traveling through Lebanon and Syria.  This may come as something of a shock to a few of the commentators, who actually think that I just rip stories out of the Israeli newspapers and re-cycle them as my own, but I actually find it hard, not to mention pointless, to write about things and places of which I have no immediate, first-hand knowledge. Iran is one of them. > read more. [...]

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    Have you ever considered why the people in the Middle East when given a choice of system they want to live in always choose Islam? As a Muslimah I can tell you why: It is simple-we love Islam. Islam is freedom personified and isn't freedom from worry what we all seek?
    Personally, I am equally surprised when non-Muslims who choose to live with the Muslimin do not eventually choose Islam. From reading your reflections about the Middle East it is obvious that the place has got you in its grip and you can't let go, even as it confounds you. The only thing that you didn't say is who you were cautioning. Is it possible that the someone who should be careful is in fact you and not those who have never seen the sun as it sets over all that sand or into the sea. So that there is no misunderstanding, aren't you the least bit worried that you will one day be one of those truly free Muslimin who would choose Islam if given the chance?

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    Gee Tim, Scott has no problem commenting on things he has no first hand knowledge about......

    By the way: Is it true that in the last 6 months of fighting against the Tamil tigers over 20,000 civilians were killed with the aide of British armaments ????

  • 9

    Tim: do you think you could do an article about the white slave trade in Israel ? Exactly how big it is? and why isn't anything done to stop it? Also, if the borders are patrolled by both the israeli and egyptian armies: how do the bedioun succeed in smuggling in so many girls year after year?

  • 10

    Tim,
    Speaking of 1st-hand experience in Iran: I've started a website at http://www.storiesfromaway.com for the book-length memoir of 15 months I spent on leave from college in Iran, as well as Turkey and Iraqi Kurdistan. I'm a Princeton University undergrad and spent most of this past summer in Iran, doing interviews for my thesis on the Iranian political opposition. I hope you take a look.
    Noah Arjomand

  • 11

    I hope you could also blog about boycotting both Nokia and Siemens.
    Nokia & Siemens are electronics companies that helped the Iranian government to monitor and crush its political demonstrators. The Iranian government is the same government that supports terrorism and is trying to create nukes, so this is no lauging matter. I hope you can talk about boycotting Nokia and Siemens.

    Siemens is a government contractor both in the Pensacola airport and in helping run the communications systems on several US millitary bases. I am worried about any possible security risks if both Siemens and Nokia both collaborated with Iran. Also Siemens is also bidding to design components for the Los Angeles subway system.

    The world should boycott both Nokia and Siemens! There are many Nokia & Siemens boycott videos posted all over Youtube. I am posting some Nokia & Siemens boycott videos from Youtube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjGhe95QBSU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2Q4P1J3Xx4&feature=related

    Please post the videos all over the internet and tell your friends to boycott both Nokia and Siemens.

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