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Obama-Israel: A Widening Gap?
A further thought on Obama's latest Middle East moves:
It was to be expected, especially with a right-wing prime minister assuming office in Israel, but the discordance between the Obama administration and the week-old Netanyahu government has become striking. What's interesting is that Obama's clashing with Israel involves not just right-wing Likud but the ex-Labor/Kadima elder statesman Shimon Peres as well. What it seems to mean is that both sides realize despite the strong U.S.-Israeli alliance and friendship that there is a gap emerging on two major issues, the path to a settlement with the Palestinians, and how to handle the threat posed by Iran's nuclear ambitions. In general, Obama is in a hurry for Israel and the Palestinians to reach a final peace deal, and Israel is not; Obama is offering incentive carrots to the Iranian regime, while Israel prefers using sticks.
Before the start of the Persian New Year holiday Nowruz, Obama delivered a videotaped conciliatory message to the Iranian people and to the Iranian regime.
So in this season of new beginnings I would like to speak clearly to Iran's leaders. We have serious differences that have grown over time. My administration is now committed to diplomacy that addresses the full range of issues before us, and to pursuing constructive ties among the United States, Iran and the international community. This process will not be advanced by threats. We seek instead engagement that is honest and grounded in mutual respect.
In a gesture that may or may not have annoyed the White House, Peres, in his capacity as president of Israel, also delivered a surprise Nowruz message. It's tone and content completely contradicted Obama's message, in denouncing Iranian leaders and seeking to divide them from Iran's people.
To our great sadness, relations between our countries are at their lowest point. This derives from the leaders of your country, who are driven to act in every way possible against the State of Israel and its people, and even to threaten us with their intention to destroy us. I ask myself how a noble people like you can be caught up in a blind hatred like this, how you chose a leader who scorns the people who were murdered by the Nazis, and who wants to destroy and kill another country. You believe in God, and we believe in God, but in a God of life and respect, not a God of death and hate...We are certain and hopeful that the darkness and the evil will disappear from the world for the good of all of humanity. On the occasion of the new year, I turn to the noble Iranian people in the name of the ancient Jewish people, and I wish that they will return to reclaim their rightful place amongst the enlightened nations of the world.
A more in-your-face rejection of Obama's Middle East policies came from Netanyahu foreign miniser Avigdor Lieberman. At his swearing-in ceremony on April 1, Lieberman confirmed Israel's adherence to the step-by-step Road Map but categorically rejected continuing Israel's talks with Palestinian leaders on establishing a Palestinian state in the process launched at Bush's Annapolis peace conference in November 2007.
There is one document that obligates us - and that's not the Annapolis conference, it has no validity. The Israeli government never ratified Annapolis, nor did Knesset.
Obama didn't get Lieberman's memo. In his landmark address to the Muslim world in Turkey this week, he reiterated that the U.S. expected Israelis and Palestinians to continue the Annapolis process.
Let me be clear: The United States strongly supports the goal of two states, Israel and Palestine, living side by side in peace and security. That is a goal shared by Palestinians, Israelis and people of goodwill around the world. That is a goal that the parties agreed to in the road map and at Annapolis. That is a goal that I will actively pursue as president of the United States.
The next day, Lieberman effectively suggested that Obama was out of touch.
We must understand and admit that we are at a dead end... I don't see the logic...to skip directly to negotiations over a final agreement, to give up all our demands of the other side.
--By Scott MacLeod/Cairo
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It is the Israeli government that is out of touch and way past time for the USA to return to our heritage:
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"Observe good faith and justice towards all nations; cultivate peace and harmony with all...and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave...a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils."-George Washington's Farewell Address - 1796
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Israel's statehood was contingent upon upholding the UN Declaration of Human Rights. Israel has no constitution, but in their own words they committed on May 14, 1948 in their Declaration of the Establishment of Israel:
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"On the day of the termination of the British mandate and on the strength of the United Nations General Assembly declare The State of Israel will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel: it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion it will guarantee freedom of religion [and] conscience and will be faithful to the Charter of the United Nations."
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On April 5, 2009 in Prague, Obama admitted that,"Words must mean something…
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"There is violence and injustice in our world that must be confronted. We must confront it by standing together as free nations, as free people. I know that a call to arms can stir the souls of men and women more than a call to lay them down. But that is why the voices for peace and progress must be raised together.
."Human destiny will be what we make of it...Let us honor our past by reaching for a better future. Let us bridge our divisions, build upon our hopes, and accept our responsibility to leave this world more prosperous and more peaceful than we found it. Together we can do it."
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Only in Solidarity do "we have it in our power to begin the world again."[Tom Paine] and a healthy democracy requires an active engaged vigilant citizenry.
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The Anti-Christ is emerging. Obama, you dismay me with your unscrupulous talks paired with absence of potency in your regime. You are full of words and any day sooner, the US will fall below the ranks of everyone's expectancy.
Remember that Israel is the Holy Land. Christianity's course is to unite and not pledge alliances with hostile nations. The treachery of Muslims have stratified lands instead of uniting nations. Remember that.
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This is a ruse based on your selective quoting of Obama. Obama demands that Iran concede what's at issue as a condition of negotiations. There's no widening gap. Obama and Israel are courting disaster.
Israel is a rogue theocratic state, and should be cut off from any further US money.
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to boydudac: It is because of religious delusions such as the ones you harbor that the middle east is the mess it is today. Without religion, sanity would've prevailed, and this real estate dispute would've been solved decades ago. Religious beliefs (delusions) should be kept far, far away from foreign policy. Bush let the religious right in the US drive his foreign policy concerning Israel, and as such Israel could do no wrong. Israel should be totally cut off from US aid if they refuse to negotiate with the Palestinians. This fire threatens to burn us all, even here in the west, and a solution has to be found. I think it will emerge in the following months who is the real obstacle to peace between Israel and the Palestinians. And Israel knows that. And when it does, watch the character attacks against Obama intensify for not bowing to Israel's demands like American presidents meekly and traditionally do.
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Israel has been dictating the major substantive parts of our foreign policy, especially in the Middle East, for years. In my opinion, Obama is afraid that Netanyahu will go straight to Congress and use his button men there to circumvent the President. The Israeli lobby has $$$. 'nuff said.
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One key to this debate is whether Iran is actually a threat to Israel or not. For Israel to convince the public that it needs to attack Iran, causing major conflict throughout the region, if not the world, they will have to produce proof that Iran is creating weapons to destroy Israel. This proof does not exist.
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Yet Israel has been making these accusations for 6 years with no evidence whatsoever anyway. For 6 years, Israel has threatened to fly over other countries' borders to attack Iran. Pro-Zionist journalists have waxed poetic for driveling readers/armchair-generals about various ways Israel can attempt to achieve its objectives. Iran, in return, has been modernizing its military arsenal to counter threats from Israel. Iran believes that Israel MAY attack it. So does the world: just one perceived threat from Israel's Secretary of Transportation, Shaul Mafuz, raised the price of oil $11 in one day.
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Notwithstanding Israel's threats, the question remains whether Iran has threatened to attack Israel without provocation. The answer is no. Iran has responded only with how it would DEFEND should Israel attack first. Iran did not start this conversation, Israel did. I've been a victim to this chest thumping for 6 years ad nauseam. In the meantime, Israel has a Palestinian problem... one they should really tend to before they cause WW III.
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The American taxpayers are directly involved. The most aid the US gives to any country goes to Israel, a country that is rich on its own. Talk to your representatives. -
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Taxpayer information: http://www.ifamericansknew.org
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George Washington on Israel
“A passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification.” ~George Washington, ~page 269 of The 5000 Year Leap.
“The nation which indulges toward another habitual hatred or habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interests." ~ George Washington
"Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none." ~ Thomas Jefferson
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persianadvocate,
As one "advocat" to another, one has to look as the actions of the Iranian regime to consider its actions towards Israel. While Iran has not launched an offensive war in years, Iran continues to arm Hizbollah and Hamas, which pose a threat to Israel. If you have read my past writings, you know I am no fan of the Israeli government, but to say Iran does not pose some "threat" to Israel seems to belie the facts as I understand them. Hizbollah and Hamas are threats to Israel. In reference to Hizbollah, I support Israel. After all, Israel no longer occupies Lebanese territory ( despite claims about Shabaa Farms) and Hizbollah has no right to attack Israel. As far as Hamas, it cannot send rockets into Israel and expect it not to respond (though Israel's response was very excessive). It is time Hamas dropped the rhetoric, and dealt with the reality that Israel is not going away. It seems Hamas' current leadership does not have the patience of Sheik Yassin, who realized that the demographics are on the side of the Palestinians. Given the rhetoric from the current Iranian president, I understand why Israel takes him seriously. -
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FHM,
However, you must look the totality of the timeline and question why Iran has taken such a strong stance with the Palestinian cause.
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As I replied to Scott in a previous blog:
"Trita Parsi, someone the Obama administration should be talking to more and more, astutely noted:
"[I]t wasn't Iran that turned the Israeli-Iranian cold war warm – it was Israel . . . The Israeli reversal on Iran was partially motivated by the fear that its strategic importance would diminish significantly in the post-cold war middle east if the then president (1989-97) Hashemi Rafsanjani's outreach to the Bush Sr administration was successful."
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"Israeli politicians began painting the regime in Tehran as fanatical and irrational. Clearly, they maintained, finding an accommodation with such “mad mullahs” was a non-starter. Instead, they called on the US to classify Iran, along with Saddam Hussein's Iraq, as a rogue state that needed to be “contained.”
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Naturally the neo-Cons did not like this book and resorted to ad hominem attacks against Dr Parsi, effectively (and falsey) accusing him of being an Iranian agent:
http://www.aei.org/publications/pubID.27319,filter.all/pub_detail.asp
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To which Dr Parsi replied:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/trita-parsi/smells-like-desperation-_b_73575.html"
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Israel also materially supports organizations officially recognized as terrorists by the United States and Europe, such as the MKO and Jundullah. Indeed, let us not forget that Israel gave large amount of aid to Hamas in the past to counterweight them against the PLO. Israel is no angel here. You can't make accusations with a dirty finger. -
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